Tuesday, July 31, 2012

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Financial Deregulation Created “Too Big To Fail” ‹ I Acknowledge Class Warfare Exists

Financial Deregulation Created “Too Big To Fail” ‹ I Acknowledge Class Warfare Exists:

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“Great corporations exist only because they are created and safe-guarded by our institutions; and it is therefore our right and our duty to see that they work in harmony with these institutions.”

~Teddy Roosevelt, State of the Union Message, December 3rd 1901
A week ago – the Federal Reserve of New York put out a research paper mapping the explosion of bank holding companies (BHCs)- they write HERE:
Chart 1 illustrates the rapid growth in the size and scope of BHCs over the past twenty years. As shown in the chart, nearly all U.S. banking assets are controlled by bank holding companies, and U.S. BHCs as a group (inclusive of firms whose ultimate parent is a foreign banking organization) control well over $15 trillion in total assets, representing a fivefold increase since 1991.1 By comparison, nominal GDP increased by only around 150 percent over the same period.
So the assets of banks have increased by 500% by America’s Gross Domestic Product has only increased by 150%.  When you’re dealing with trillions of dollars – that’s kind of a big deal (in a Joe Biden way – not a Ron Burgundy way).
You’ll notice two things from the chart above …
#1 – After a Republican Congress passed and a Democrat President Bill Clinton signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which was the final deathblow to Great Depression era legislation like the Glass Stealy Act which said banks must completely separate their customer’s deposits from any other bank operations.  Gramm-Leach-Bliley allowed for banks to use consumer deposits for whatever purpose they saw necessary.  It is precisely this reckless behavior by banks where they did not have their consumer operation divided from their investment bank that created the Bush economic crisis in the first place.
#2 – The 2nd graph shows that the share of assets is growing for the top 10 largest bank holding companies meanwhile the number of bank holding companies in the market is shrinking.  In short – larger banks are getting larger and pose a bigger systemic risk or “moral hazard” to the market.  Now – thanks to the Dodd-Frank law passed in 2010 and signed by President Obama … the federal government may step in and break up these Too Big To Fail banks if they are deemed a systemic risk leaving taxpayers on the hook.  The law even forced these banks to put together their own living wills to explain how they should be broken up in the event of a breakup.  It also says that should the U.S. government ever have to come to their aid again … they WILL be broken up.  Period.  Mitt Romney wants to repeal the law in its entirety.
Bloomberg explains what the regulators have been doing relative to these “living wills” HERE:
U.S. regulators, seeking to prevent a repeat of taxpayer-funded bailouts of the financial system, released summaries of plans for breaking up nine of the world’s largest banks in the event of an emergency.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and Federal Reserve posted the public portions of so-called living wills on websites today as required by the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act. The documents outline more detailed proposals submitted privately describing how regulators could dismantle the companies if they fail.
And Republicans can’t hide behind small businesses or small banks or anything else although they’ve tried because it only affects the 9 largest banks in the U.S.  Those banks are JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Deutsche Banke, Credit Suisse and UBS.  Surprisingly – Wells Fargo didn’t even meet the cut and they’re huge.
The Federal Reserve of New York even writes about what led to an environment that created this Too Big To Fail problem:
Changes in the legislative and regulatory environment have been a key driver of the trends toward greater BHC size, scope, and industry consolidation documented in Charts 1 and 2. The evolution of U.S. financial legislation in turn reflects a long-running public debate about the appropriate size and scope of banking organizations. As discussed in detail below, there has been a secular trend in recent decades toward enlarging the allowable scope of BHC activities. However, recent legislation represents something of a reversal of this trend; most prominently, the “Volcker rule” provisions of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act) prohibit BHCs from engaging in proprietary trading and limit their investments in hedge funds, private equity, and related vehicles.
And I am an advocate of breaking up the big banks just like Bernie Sanders has called for HERE.  So does former CEO of Citibank – Sandy Weill – who advocated for the deregulation of the banking industry; he now is on record saying the big banks should be broken up (source).  Even the former FED chairman and Ayn Rand follower – Alan Greenspan has been on record that we should nationalize the banks (source).
People forget that the reason banks have been able to grow and make obscene profits is because the government GUARANTEES per the FDIC that a person’s money if lost due to a bank going out of business will get every $ back up to $250k per account.  Without that – banks wouldn’t exist …. believe it.
But how the hell did we get here?
What we have seen since 1980 is a string of laws designed to deregulate the financial services industry.  Another way to look at it is these bill eliminated safeguards put in place after the Great Depression was caused by the financial services industry.  This complete clusterf#ck is courtesy of both parties:
The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 - this bill allowed for S&L’s to expand from home mortgages into a range of riskier loans and investments.  It eliminated Regulation Q enabling banks to compete for deposits with higher interest rates.
The Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act (1982) hailed by President Reagan as “the first step in our administration’s comprehensive program of financial deregulation” and thus eliminating many regulations on the S&L industry.  In 1983 – on order of this bill – the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency lifted all restrictions on loan-to-value ratios (banks could loan as much as they want regardless of the value of a house), maturities (banks could offer terms for as long as they would like 15, 30 years, interest only), amortization schedules (banks could offer mortgages where the principal balance went up over time).  It also allowed for banks to operate across borders by allowing inter-state mergers between banks and S&L’s.
The Secondary Mortgage Market Enhancement Act of 1984 allowed for investment banks to buy up mortgages, create derivatives in the form of pools and then resell them with varying levels of risk on Wall Street.
The Tax Reform Act of 1986 created tax advantages making mortgage backed securities more attractive.
Of course – some might conclude that there was a relationship between these acts of deregulation and the fact that Reagan’s treasury secretary was the former CEO for Merrill Lynch.  In 1986 – the Federal Reserve opened up another loophole allowing commercial banks to deal in specific securities that were otherwise off limits to commercial banks.  .  Alan Greenspan expanded that loophole over the next decade including municipal bonds, morgage-backed securities, commercial paper, corporate bonds and equities.
Over 2,000 banks failed between 1985 and 1992 with a peak of 534 in 1989.  Over 1,000 people were indicted and thrifts suspected of fraud cost the government over $54 billion.  The total volume of private mortgage-backed securities  (not including those issued by Fannie and Freddie) grew from $11 billion in 1984 to over $200 billion in 1994 to close to $3 trillion in 2007.
The Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act of 1994 signed by President Clinton removed many constraints on interstate banking allowing for greater consolidation in the banking sector via mergers and acquisitions.  Banks one after the other bought each other until there were only a handful of major banks; they then starting merging with other large financial services companies in the insurance and investment banking industries creating massive conglomerates.   And because hedge funds are laregely unregulated, large risk exposures were building up outside the view of the financial regulators.
Between 1980 and 2000, the assets held by commercial banks, securities firms and the securitizations they created grew from 55% of GDP to 95% of GDP.  Financial sector profits grew froman average of 13% between 1978 and 1987 to 30% from 1998 and 2007.
This led to a growth in exotic financial transactions with governments, pension funds, mutual funds etc.  One employee in the derivatives trade summed it up quite succinctly:
“Lure people into that calm and then just totally fuck them”
~Bankers Trust Derivatives Salesperson
In 1998 – the first hedge fund to go completely insolvent in a big way was Long Term Capital Management.  It had failed to propertly account for the risks inherent in both Russia and other markets like Korea, Japan etc.  Initially successful with annualized returns of over 40% (after fees) in its first years, in 1998 it lost $4.6 billion in less than four months following the Russian financial crisis and the fund c

Peaceful Protesters Put Down by Militarized Police Force | Vermont Commons

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Peaceful Protesters Put Down by Militarized Police Force

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:22pm

Burlington- Unprovoked, the Burlington Police Department opened fire on unarmed civilians with pepper spray, rubber bullets, and brutal force in order to crush dissent and political opposition to the Northeast Governor’s Conference in Burlington. In addition to Gov. Shumlin, the Conference was composed of Jean Charest, Premier of Quebec Province; and the Governors of New Hampshire, and Maine as well as numerous other delegates who gathered in Burlington to discuss regional economic and security issues.
Arriving in great numbers from locales as far afield as Connecticut, Northern Quebec, and New York City as well as turning out in droves from Burlington itself, the protesters were determined to bring issues such as natural resource extraction, affordable housing, student debt, indigenous peoples’ rights, and a wide array of other issues to the forefront of the conversation between regional elites.
Among the issues raised at the gathering of activists is the alarming fact that over 80% of Vermonters can’t afford a median priced home, that much of our state’s energy solutions are derived from “Green Capitalism” that strips many of the First Nations people of northern Quebec of their rights and culture, and the increasingly crippling amount of student debt facing many who seek higher education. The overall message: We are in crisis and our concerns must be addressed.
Rather than listening and engaging in dialogue between those gathered outside the Hilton Hotel, the order was given to turn out the riot police and put down the dissent as it sprang up in the Green Mountain State. Linking arms, the protesters attempted to block several busses from leaving the Hilton compound: a last ditch attempt to bring the issues to the governors for the day. That’s when everything changed.
In an unprecedented display of force in Vermont, about 30 heavily armed black-clad riot police used brute force to clear away the unarmed protesters: plexi-glass riot shields were thrust outward, gloved hands squeezed around throats, the air was filled with projectiles, and a small section of College Street in Burlington resembled a war zone as the police fired their weapons and civilians scrambled for their lives.








This incident, captured and uploaded numerous times to Youtube and other outlets, signals an escalation and departure from the long tradition of supporting civil disobedience and protest in Vermont. In an Op-Ed by Jo Robin, critical questions are raised about the level of force used against protesters on Sunday as well as possible Federal involvement in the series of events that led to incident on College St. “So what on earth prompted BPD in riot gear to open fire on passionate Vermonters?” asks Robin. “My guess? The FBI in cooperation with Homeland Security. Their visit to at least one activists' home is an indication that they participated in the planning and training of BPD before this action. If this is the case, why on earth is BPD taking the fall for the Feds.”
Robin also notes that throughout the weekend, civilian access the Burlington Police Department building on North Ave. was strictly prohibited. Instead, a handwritten note proclaimed the building to be “Command Unit” as several vehicles from the Department of Homeland Security waited outside. “In what world is it appropriate for the police department of a city of 40,000 people to close its main office to the public on any given day without any information about alternate offices?” Asks Robin, “…these questions remain unanswered. I hope one of our cities journalists will consider the possibility that Federal agents are participating in our local police force's decision making.”
Now, as the country enters one of the most dynamic and arguably unstable periods of its recent history one thing seems clear: As police forces across the country become increasingly militarized, they are more likely to turn to use of brutal force rather than the creativity for which Burlington Chief of Police Mike Schirling has been so lauded for. If you exist in the world as a hammer, everything looks like a nail and should be dealt with accordingly. Militarized police actions can no longer be considered products of large multi-national groups clashing with scores of protesters. The tactics now exist across the board and at every level.
What happened in Burlington was shocking. Upon hearing of the incident on College St and upon seeing the images and video that continue to emerge, many viewers reacted along the lines of “What?! This happened in Vermont?! Vermont?!?!” Systematic repression, police brutality, and the continued devotion to crushing vocal dissent wherever it exists is rapidly becoming the New Normal. We can no longer afford ourselves the comfort and peace of mind provided by “it can’t happen here.” Though it be painful and difficult to accept: it is happening here.
We’ve begun a new and dark chapter in our history: one of shadowy figures knocking on doors, of police training weapons at people who dare to deviate from the approved message, and of citizens looking over their shoulders in their own community.
We’ve begun a new chapter, where the wheel stops next is anyone’s guess.

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The protest ended without incident at about 3:45 in front of the hotel, but a smaller number of protesters later blocked the side driveway to the Hilton on College Street. Several said they had heard that buses were arriving to take the governors and premiers to a dinner at Shelburne Farms.
The violence erupted shortly before 5 p.m.
Demonstrators said police in riot gear, about 25 of them, cleared the driveway forcefully, pushing people into the street. At least two individuals were shot with with the non-lethal rounds, and at least two others were hit with pepper spray, according to witnesses.
Burlington Police Lt. Art Cyr, who had monitored the earlier demonstration and who had expressed relief then there had been “no incidents,” said protesters ignored police orders to clear the driveway. He said three individuals were identified who may be charged later with disorderly conduct.
As the confrontation ended later at the hotel driveway on College Street, Cyr, speaking to a demonstrator, said, “Of course I feel bad.”
“It’s ironic,” he told the Free Press. “None of the dignitaries were here. That’s what’s so frustrating.”
Police said the discharges “were defensive, to protect officers from those in the crowd who were moving toward them. At least one other person was sprayed with pepper spray during the incident. Burlington Police do not carry or use ‘rubber bullets’ as has been characterized by some,” the police statement said.

Women's Health Policy Report: WHPR: The Daily Report

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The Pill Kills? Really?

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Good Lord. not a chance of a pregnancy amongst them.

Repro Health Watch: High Number of State Abortion Restrictions Marked by Increased Focus on 'Fetal Pain' Bills

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High Number of State Abortion Restrictions Marked by Increased Focus on 'Fetal Pain' Bills

July 10, 2012 — The number of state-level abortion restrictions is approaching record-setting levels again this year, a fact that some abortion-rights opponents attribute to their increased focus on so-called "fetal pain" legislation, Stateline/Kaiser Health News reports.
Thirteen states this year have passed some type of legislation restricting abortion: Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin. According to Elizabeth Nash of the Guttmacher Institute, 40 abortion restrictions have become law this year.

The total number of state abortion restrictions in 2012 is not expected to surpass the number enacted last year, when there were 92 provisions passed in 24 states. However, the high number of bills is notable during an election year, when legislative sessions typically are shorter and some legislatures do not convene at all.

"It is remarkable that we are seeing this many abortion restrictions becoming law," Nash said, adding, "States aren't banning abortion, but what they're doing is piling restrictions so a woman or provider will say, 'You know what? I can't do this anymore.'" She noted that abortion opponents are "trying to eliminate abortion in their state without going through the court process and overturning Roe."

Focus on Fetal Pain Legislation 

Although the increase in part can be tied to the 2010 election, when conservatives gained majorities in many state governments, Mary Spaulding Balch -- director of state legislation for the National Right to Life Committee -- credits some of the victories to abortion-rights opponents' success in promoting fetal pain legislation. The group's "Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act" has been used as a model in many states to ban abortion later in pregnancy, when supporters claim that a fetus can start to feel pain.

Douglas Laube, chair of the board of Physicians for Reproductive Choice and Health, called the nationwide fetal pain legislation movement "a well-coordinated effort" but noted that the claim that fetuses can feel pain around 20 weeks of gestation "has no basis in any kind of accepted scientific fact."

In 2010, Nebraska became the first state to pass legislation with the fetal pain language. Last year, Republican-controlled legislatures in AlabamaIdahoIndianaKansas and Oklahoma also passed similar bills, and this year, lawmakers in ArizonaGeorgia and Louisiana enacted laws.

Arizona Rep. Kimberly Yee (R) said she modeled her state's ban after laws in other states but "customized" the language to fit Arizona statutes. In addition to making it a crime for a physician to perform an abortion more than 20 weeks after the woman's last menstrual cycle, except to save her life, the law restricts the conditions under which doctors can provide medication abortion drugs, requires parental consent for minors, mandates that the state create a website depicting fetal development, and orders abortion clinics to post signs stating that it is illegal to coerce a woman into having an abortion (Wiltz, Stateline/Kaiser Health News, 7/9).

Religious License to Commit Sex Crimes

To Sinead O'Connor, the pope's apology for sex abuse in Ireland seems hollow:

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"But Benedict's infamous 2001 letter to bishops around the world ordered them to keep sexual abuse allegations secret under threat of excommunication -- updating a noxious church policy, expressed in a 1962 document, that both priests accused of sex crimes and their victims "observe the strictest secret" and be "restrained by a perpetual silence."



An Grianán was a product of the Irish government's relationship with the Vatican -- the church had a "special position" codified in our constitution until 1972. As recently as 2007, 98 percent of Irish schools were run by the Catholic Church. But schools for troubled youth have been rife with barbaric corporal punishments, psychological abuse and sexual abuse. In October 2005, a report sponsored by the Irish government identified more than 100 allegations of sexual abuse by priests in Ferns, a small town 70 miles south of Dublin, between 1962 and 2002. Accused priests weren't investigated by police; they were deemed to be suffering a "moral" problem. In 2009, a similar reportimplicated Dublin archbishops in hiding sexual abuse scandals between 1975 and 2004.
Why was such criminal behavior tolerated? The "very prominent role which the Church has played in Irish life is the very reason why abuses by a minority of its members were allowed to go unchecked," the 2009 report said.
Despite the church's long entanglement with the Irish government, Pope Benedict's so-called apology takes no responsibility for the transgressions of Irish priests. His letter states that "the Church in Ireland must first acknowledge before the Lord and before others the serious sins committed against defenceless children." What about the Vatican's complicity in those sins?
Benedict's apology gives the impression that he heard about abuse only recently, and it presents him as a fellow victim: "I can only share in the dismay and the sense of betrayal that so many of you have experienced on learning of these sinful and criminal acts and the way Church authorities in Ireland dealt with them." But Benedict's infamous 2001 letter to bishops around the world ordered them to keep sexual abuse allegations secret under threat of excommunication -- updating a noxious church policy, expressed in a 1962 document, that both priests accused of sex crimes and their victims "observe the strictest secret" and be "restrained by a perpetual silence."


Benedict, then known as Joseph Ratzinger, was a cardinal when he wrote that letter. Now that he sits in Saint Peter's chair, are we to believe that his position has changed? And are we to take comfort in last week's revelations that, in 1996, he declined to defrock a priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys in Wisconsin?
Benedict's apology states that his concern is "above all, to bring healing to the victims." Yet he denies them the one thing that might bring them healing -- a full confession from the Vatican that it has covered up abuse and is now trying to cover up the cover up. Astonishingly, he invites Catholics "to offer up your fasting, your prayer, your reading of Scripture and your works of mercy in order to obtain the grace of healing and renewal for the Church in Ireland." Even more astonishing, he suggests that Ireland's victims can find healing by getting closer to the church -- the same church that has demanded oaths of silence from molested children, as occurred in 1975 in the case of Father Brendan Smyth, an Irish priest later jailed for repeated sexual offenses. After we stopped laughing, many of us in Ireland recognized the idea that we needed the church to get closer to Jesus as blasphemy.
To Irish Catholics, Benedict's implication -- Irish sexual abuse is an Irish problem -- is both arrogant and blasphemous. The Vatican is acting as though it doesn't believe in a God who watches. The very people who say they are the keepers of the Holy Spirit are stamping all over everything the Holy Spirit truly is. Benedict criminally misrepresents the God we adore. We all know in our bones that the Holy Spirit is truth. That's how we can tell that Christ is not with these people who so frequently invoke Him.
Irish Catholics are in a dysfunctional relationship with an abusive organization. The pope must take responsibility for the actions of his subordinates. If Catholic priests are abusing children, it is Rome, not Dublin, that must answer for it with a full confession and in a criminal investigation. Until it does, all good Catholics -- even little old ladies who go to church every Sunday, not just protest singers like me whom the Vatican can easily ignore -- should avoid Mass. In Ireland, it is time we separated our God from our religion, and our faith from its alleged leaders."

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Good for her.

House Fails to Pass Measure Attacking D.C. Women :: NARAL Pro-Choice America

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WOMEN

NARAL Pro-Choice America channeled 40,978 messages in opposition to the bill

Washington, D.C. – Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, sharply criticized anti-choice leaders of the U.S. House of Representatives for trying to enact a bill that would undermine the reproductive rights of women in Washington, D.C. The bill failed to get the two-thirds majority needed to pass.
“Once again, anti-choice leaders in the House continue their obsession with attacking a woman’s right to choose,” Keenan said. “This extreme legislation would have imposed cruel restrictions on women facing unimaginable circumstances. Their callous attack on women’s reproductive rights is just another reminder of why elections matter. We must elect pro-choice candidates and thus change who controls the House. That’s the best way to stop an agenda that is so out of touch with our nation’s values and priorities.”
The legislation, H.R.3803, is the third stand-alone anti-choice measure that the House has advanced in the last four months. NARAL Pro-Choice America joined Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray, and other civil- and reproductive-rights leaders in opposition to this legislation. The bill would ban abortion at 20 weeks in the District of Columbia, with no consideration for a woman’s health or her situation, including cases of rape, incest, or fetal anomaly. District of Columbia resident Christy Zink, who terminated a pregnancy at 21 weeks after doctors found a cyst on the brain of the fetus and a follow-up MRI revealed severe anomalies of the brain, would have been unable to get the care she needed had this ban been in effect. 
The organization launched a nationwide effort to counter this legislation, channeling 40,978 messages calling on the House to reject this divisive and far-reaching bill.
H.R.3803 was modeled after an abortion ban first enacted in Nebraska in 2010. So far, eight more states have followed Nebraska’s lead, and anti-choice organizations pressured Congress to override local elected leaders and impose this ban on the women of Washington, D.C.
Contact:
Ted Miller, 202.973.3032

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Do under 18 year old rapists like Will Frey and Austin Zehnder have a sex offender status on their records?

In the Savannah Dietrich rape case:
Do under 18 year old rapists like Will Frey and Austin Zehnder, from Kentucky, have a sex offender status on their records? Such that they would be on a Megan's Law type of website if they moved next to you when they are above 18?

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  • Answerer 1
    They do, but depending on if they were tried as adults or as children depends on the time the status stays. If they were tried as children, their record is exponged on their 18 birthday. If they were tried as adults, the status lasts the full term, which is something around 10 years.
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    Kentucky has a sexual offender website, but Zehnder and Frey are not listed on it. Nor are they likely to be, as they were not adults convicted of sex crimes against minors. That's a requirement in Kentucky. Second, while they are rapists, they were not convicted of rape under Kentucky law. They pled guilty to sexual abuse in the first degree (a Class D felony) and voyeurism (a Class A misdemeanor). A Class D felony in Kentucky is one that carries a penalty of "not less than one (1) year nor more than five (5) years." A Class A misdemeanor carries a penalty of "up to 12 months in jail and $500 fine."

    Since they were tried as juveniles--the reason for the gag order, apparently, is to protect juveniles--it's likely that their records will be expunged when their probation is over and that their records will be sealed.

    However, Savannah saw to it that they would never completely escape their crime. Court records can be sealed, but once info is on the Internet, it's there FOREVER.

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    Oh I think they will forever have rapist on their records. As well they should have.


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60 Responses to Savannah Dietrich Rapists Voyeurs Austin Zehnder Will Frey – Video: Contempt Charges Dropped

  1. B Solo on July 24, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Great report. Justice must serve the victims, not protect the perps. Well done, you two.
    • Maggie on July 24, 2012 at 11:49 am
    • akp666 on July 24, 2012 at 2:50 pm
      The boys were never accused of rape. They were accused of taking pics of her while she was passed out drunk and naked at a party. They went on to show those pics around and were subsequently arrested. They plead guilty to sexual assault admitting they had no right to take those pics, muchless distribute them to the public. There were absolutely no allegations of rape involved in this case, and her calling them rapists in her twitter statement seemed more metaphorical than literal. There was a reason a gag order was issued on this case, Judges kind of have experience dealing with these types of situations.
      • Maggie on July 24, 2012 at 3:36 pm
        akp666, she said she was raped and you know that charges are pled down all the time. What do you consider sexual assault? I’ve seen a lot of Judges had out heinously light punishment for child predators. There are plenty of people with judicial experience and a focus on constitutional law that say her First Amendment Rights were violated. The boys could identify her, but she can’t identify them. Get real.
        • Not Dr. Krune on July 24, 2012 at 5:34 pm
          Maggie, why did you delete his comment mentioning your very real risk of libel?
        • Not Dr. Krune on July 24, 2012 at 5:39 pm
          Maggie, I know you’d like to delete any and all references to your potentially libelous actions, and I just wanted to let you know that I’m saving everything that is posted here, with timestamps, and am forwarding it to the boys’ attorney. Have a good night!
          • Maggie on July 24, 2012 at 6:16 pm
            Not Dr. Krune, I haven’t deleted a thing from my post, only the rude comments here, so send away.
            • Not Dr. Krune on July 25, 2012 at 1:58 pm
              No, you’ve deleted several posts, including two by akp666 that were simply explanations of why you might be guilty of libel. I see that lying comes easily to you though. :-)
      • Boson on July 24, 2012 at 5:57 pm
        Your explanation of the charges are incorrect. The minimum charge under sexual assault(also known as rape in some states) is touching a person sexually without their consent, naked pictures alone aren’t enough. Since this case is sealed due to the minors that are involved, how do you know what exactly happened? How do you know what was said in court?…”Her calling them rapists seemed metaphorical?” To whom? The charges are very clear, they had to at least touch her in a sexual manner to be charged with sexual assault. A plea deal means there were greater charges, who knows what those charges were. You can’t assume what those charges were, nor can you assume what they were doing to her in those pics. The victim said she was raped(not an assumption), you’re assuming she meant something else.
        • Maggie on July 24, 2012 at 6:15 pm
          Thank you Boson.
        • akp666 on July 24, 2012 at 6:17 pm
          Sexual Assault isn’t the same thing as rape. Sexual Assault involves a host of things involving sexual contact. What exactly does sexual contact specifically mean, well you put it into context, it’s called a legal interpretation. If two guys take pics of a naked girl, what would we legally call that? I don’t know something like voyeurism, which is considered sexual contact if its with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
      • Cliff on July 24, 2012 at 10:42 pm
        Then why did she characterize it as rape on multiple occasions and why did the Louisville Courier-Journal include the word “rapist” in it’s article? From what I understand rape and sexual assault are well differentiated in the Kentucky penal code and from what you say Savannah and the newspaper seem to be way out on a limb as far as libel goes. I’ll be waiting for the lawsuit.
        • akp666 on July 24, 2012 at 11:08 pm
          Kentucky charges rape as Rape in the First to Third Degree, depending on the severity of the case. Rape and Sexual Assault are not the same thing. Rape involves penetration, sexual assault does not.
  2. Sean on July 24, 2012 at 11:32 am
    You and/or the victim should find out where these “yoots” are going to college, and make sure the institutions know they’re admitting two sexual predators.





Austin Zehnder and Will Frey Should Feel Ashamed

And the people who tried to protect them from public scorn should also be ashamed.





Indeed, name them, shame them. The long future of being reminded about their crime is important, I think, to emphasize how horrible and damaging was their assault.
The law already has a horrible reputation for unbalanced results like this, the least lawmakers could do is try to repair things enough to improve their reputation and even gain some trust from the public.






Shame is a very important social function and it’s our responsibility to make sure they feel it. The apologists I’ve seen don’t seem to understand that people who do bad things should expect to be shunned and criticized by society.
Of course, it didn’t help that some of those apologists talked about the assault as a “youthful mistake.” In other words, “boys will be boys.” I can’t stand this idea that apparently we’re supposed to allow kids to be anarchists with no sense of responsibility for their actions.






Some additional photos of the rapist Will Frey were posted on Imgur.


Apparently their friend Sumner Franklin thinks its cool to defend rapists and then afterwards post his own phone number on Twitter…





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